XTension Discussion
Re: Odd behaviors.
You should probably start with a signal bridge in your main breaker panel and see where that gets you - if you want hi-powered bridging, look up Jeff Volpe - he makes an amazing bridge/ repeater.
The satellite panel is wired from the main (unless you have 2 services coming into your house), and it is pulled from each leg of your main power, so if you bridge one, the other will follow. (Unless you have a major signal sucker that is messing things up).
Hope this helps.
Charlie-
On Mar 17, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Emery & Laney Bills wrote:
> Once again, thank you for all the great information.
>
> I think I have a very unusually situation and I am wondering what the easiest and simplest solution might be.
>
> The house has a breaker box in the garage (basement of a 3 story house.) and the room just above it is wired with outlets that run down into that breaker panel. The rest of the house goes to a completely different breaker panel in the utility room at the back of the house.
>
> This must be why I cannot control the devices in that room above the garage.
>
> That said, is there a wireless solution that I should use to control the two lamps I cannot get to? I think I have seen devices at X10 that screw into the lamp where the bulb goes and is a wireless device. I am using the CM15A which has an antenae and I would love to solve these two lamps with as much ease as is possible.
>
> Thanks again.
> Emery
>
>
> On TuesdayMar 16, 2010 5:44:53 AM, at Tuesday3/16/10 5:44 AM, Tom Yarmas wrote:
>
>> My pleasure Michael. The least I can do.
>>
>> Emery and Laney,
>>
>> Something else you can look for are so called "signal suckers" near your X10
>> modules or the CM15. Often these are "wall wart" power supplies for things
>> like cordless phones and other low voltage devices. The "wall warts" are
>> actually power converts which provide DC current (9V or 12V power
>> converters). These devices will limit or suck the X10 signal and not allow
>> it to get to the X10 modules. I guess they are really causing noise to occur
>> on the line or at least causing a distortion in the X10 signal so the module
>> will not see the command. If there are such devices near the modules or CM15
>> then try to move them or unplug them and see if the signals get through.
>>
>> The signal bridge I mention has to go on a separate breaker in the breaker
>> panel. It will use a double pole double throw breaker which will be on both
>> legs of the power and will allow the signal to cross the legs. I have used
>> one like this -
>> www.smarthome.com/4815AC/X10-Signal-Bridge-HomePro-CP000/p.aspx
>>
>> X10 makes one as well -
>> www.thex10shop.com/product/x10-x-10-pro-xpcp-phase-coupler-signal-bri
>> dge
>>
>> There is also one which just plugs in to the dryer outlet instead of the
>> breaker panel in case you are not comfortable messing with high voltage or
>> don't want to call an electrician -
>> www.smarthome.com/4816B2/SignaLinc-trade-Plug-In-Phase-Coupler/p.aspx
>>
>> -tom
>>
>>
>> On 3/16/10 3:05 AM, "michael" <michael-AT-shed.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> AND THANK YOU TOM !
>>> It's so nice to have such help.
>>> michael
>>>
>>> On Mar 16, 2010, at 12:15 AM, Tom Yarmas wrote:
>>>
>>>> It should make sense once you better understand the house wiring. Every
>>>> house has 220/240 volt power. But, most electrical devices use 110/120 volts
>>>> (except large items like Oven, stove, dryer, etc). So your house has 2 legs
>>>> of 110/120 volt in your breaker panel (fuse box). Every breaker in the
>>>> breaker panel connects to one or the other leg of the power. In fact, every
>>>> other breaker connects to the same leg - so the even breakers are on one leg
>>>> and the odd breakers are on the other leg. The 220/240 Volt breakers are on
>>>> both legs.
>>>
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The satellite panel is wired from the main (unless you have 2 services coming into your house), and it is pulled from each leg of your main power, so if you bridge one, the other will follow. (Unless you have a major signal sucker that is messing things up).
Hope this helps.
Charlie-
On Mar 17, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Emery & Laney Bills wrote:
> Once again, thank you for all the great information.
>
> I think I have a very unusually situation and I am wondering what the easiest and simplest solution might be.
>
> The house has a breaker box in the garage (basement of a 3 story house.) and the room just above it is wired with outlets that run down into that breaker panel. The rest of the house goes to a completely different breaker panel in the utility room at the back of the house.
>
> This must be why I cannot control the devices in that room above the garage.
>
> That said, is there a wireless solution that I should use to control the two lamps I cannot get to? I think I have seen devices at X10 that screw into the lamp where the bulb goes and is a wireless device. I am using the CM15A which has an antenae and I would love to solve these two lamps with as much ease as is possible.
>
> Thanks again.
> Emery
>
>
> On TuesdayMar 16, 2010 5:44:53 AM, at Tuesday3/16/10 5:44 AM, Tom Yarmas wrote:
>
>> My pleasure Michael. The least I can do.
>>
>> Emery and Laney,
>>
>> Something else you can look for are so called "signal suckers" near your X10
>> modules or the CM15. Often these are "wall wart" power supplies for things
>> like cordless phones and other low voltage devices. The "wall warts" are
>> actually power converts which provide DC current (9V or 12V power
>> converters). These devices will limit or suck the X10 signal and not allow
>> it to get to the X10 modules. I guess they are really causing noise to occur
>> on the line or at least causing a distortion in the X10 signal so the module
>> will not see the command. If there are such devices near the modules or CM15
>> then try to move them or unplug them and see if the signals get through.
>>
>> The signal bridge I mention has to go on a separate breaker in the breaker
>> panel. It will use a double pole double throw breaker which will be on both
>> legs of the power and will allow the signal to cross the legs. I have used
>> one like this -
>> www.smarthome.com/4815AC/X10-Signal-Bridge-HomePro-CP000/p.aspx
>>
>> X10 makes one as well -
>> www.thex10shop.com/product/x10-x-10-pro-xpcp-phase-coupler-signal-bri
>> dge
>>
>> There is also one which just plugs in to the dryer outlet instead of the
>> breaker panel in case you are not comfortable messing with high voltage or
>> don't want to call an electrician -
>> www.smarthome.com/4816B2/SignaLinc-trade-Plug-In-Phase-Coupler/p.aspx
>>
>> -tom
>>
>>
>> On 3/16/10 3:05 AM, "michael" <michael-AT-shed.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> AND THANK YOU TOM !
>>> It's so nice to have such help.
>>> michael
>>>
>>> On Mar 16, 2010, at 12:15 AM, Tom Yarmas wrote:
>>>
>>>> It should make sense once you better understand the house wiring. Every
>>>> house has 220/240 volt power. But, most electrical devices use 110/120 volts
>>>> (except large items like Oven, stove, dryer, etc). So your house has 2 legs
>>>> of 110/120 volt in your breaker panel (fuse box). Every breaker in the
>>>> breaker panel connects to one or the other leg of the power. In fact, every
>>>> other breaker connects to the same leg - so the even breakers are on one leg
>>>> and the odd breakers are on the other leg. The 220/240 Volt breakers are on
>>>> both legs.
>>>
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