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Re: "Do Not Pass" does not favor the house

From: Vikki Riley <riley.vikki-AT-gmail.com>
Date: 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 UTC   (04:33:37 PM in author's locale)
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Or is that borderline rat.

On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 4:29 PM, FM <freemodulation-AT-gmail.com">freemodulation-AT-gmail.com> wrote:

but… who are you talking to
it seems a borderline rant

Il giorno 18/mar/2011, alle ore 01.08, JEAN PARR ha scritto:

You dont listen to anything do you half wit.
Your retorts are less than ten year old schoolyard.
A new phenomenon geddit? That means something that hasnt been around before, not noticed as phenomenal anyway.

—- On Thu, 17/3/11, FM <freemodulation-AT-gmail.com" onclick="return newWindow(this.href);">freemodulation-AT-gmail.com> wrote:

From: FM <freemodulation-AT-gmail.com" onclick="return newWindow(this.href);">freemodulation-AT-gmail.com>
Subject: Re: "Do Not Pass" does not favor the house
To: "Discussions of situationist theory" <situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org" onclick="return newWindow(this.href);">situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org>
Date: Thursday, 17 March, 2011, 8:55


yes I can see Murdoch makes millions and just because this kind of disasters are the “main” events they can be used as distraction tools. I don't see a counterposition here.  Moreover, misinformation, infotainment, etc. are as old as newspapers. You are not discovering any continent. The media strategy of Katrina (24hours/7days) was actually introduced for the first time much earlier: during the desert storm campaign in Iraq. That was the big test, though the excuse was not a natural disaster, rather the further political one created decades before by the US in that area.

Then I also noted that you improved the trajectory of your words: dare have a position that is different from RH one day?

—
FM



Il giorno 17/mar/2011, alle ore 07.56, Vikki Riley ha scritto:

FM

"Please preserve the difference between the spectacle (in any sense) and a disaster. The fact that a catastrophic event may be used to distract citizens from other main concerns or topical issues does not turn the Japan tsunami into the titanic. I expect you to carry out your activism in Japan for the humanitarian purposes you have deep rooted inside (not ironical here), instead of reverberating web links (you would have written this to me, Mme coherence)."

The spectacle of disaster as rolling news 24/7 with repetition, syndication, false reporting, hysteria, is a media phenomenon which has recently come to the fore on TV screens worldwide. The Chilean miners, the floods in Australia, Cyclones, now this Japanese disaster. Murdoch is making millions so is CNN. You can't see this FM?
As Richard states, Hurricane Katrina was a precursor to this new spectacle of suffering
that the ratings people love and the public consumes without question.
This event is not a distraction. Its the main event. Japan is the world's third largest economy. Yes capitalist is being brought down at a very fast pace indeed.
Activism in Japan??? There's no activists there. Australian experts at human recovery/firefighters and 100 troops from East Timor are already on the ground there.
Massive deployment of assistance has already occurred.

And cut the Mme crap mate. One day I'm a cowgirl now I'm some sort of Euro dollie.
As for the web links I chose the best, up to date coverage as we are in the same time zone/region as Japan.

VR





On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 4:12 PM, JEAN PARR <jeanparr-AT-btinternet.com" onclick="return newWindow(this.href);">jeanparr-AT-btinternet.com> wrote:
Dont quote Haden like hes some kind of product endorsement.
It demonstrates I have the right attitude towards your reptilian way of going about things.
At keast you can get through one of my posts in ten seconds which is more than can be said for the Oort Cloud you come out of

—- On Thu, 17/3/11, R Drake Ewbank <drake-AT-efn.org" onclick="return newWindow(this.href);">drake-AT-efn.org> wrote:

> From: R Drake Ewbank <drake-AT-efn.org" onclick="return newWindow(this.href);">drake-AT-efn.org>
> Subject: Re: "Do Not Pass" does not favor the house
> To: "Discussions of situationist theory" <situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org" onclick="return newWindow(this.href);">situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org>
> Date: Thursday, 17 March, 2011, 1:19
> Actually I stole as much obfuscation
> as they would let me on the
> plane with, and reading it only makes things worse…
>
> still working on detourning all of my Osmond Brothers album
>
> covers, [just in case this revolutionary thing does not
> work
> out], forgive me for practicing on Jean's annoyances.
>
> On 3/16/2011 6:09 PM, richard haden wrote:
> > I don't know Jean. I think Drake's actual voluminous
> written verbiage far out
> > distances his copy and pasties. Even without reading
> Drake's latest contribution
> > I am sure there is a good deal of original obfuscation
> going down…
> >
> > Richard Haden
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: R Drake Ewbank<drake-AT-efn.org" onclick="return newWindow(this.href);">drake-AT-efn.org>
> > To: Discussions of situationist theory<situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org" onclick="return newWindow(this.href);">situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org>
> > Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 8:29:59 PM
> > Subject: Re: "Do Not Pass" does not favor the house
> >
> > Oh great, a sewing project…[!]
> >
> > On 3/16/2011 3:21 PM, JEAN PARR wrote:
> >> It means Im not putting up with this stupid cut
> and paste and
> >> this idiotic format of throwing whole chunks of
> previously
> >> written material up for dissection. Thats not a
> proper way to
> >> write, what it speaks of is an incredibly lazy
> attitude,
> >> learned no doubt on some half baked humanities
> course, a
> >> formulaic way of writing and discussing whose
> primary purpose
> >> is to discourage internet plagiarism.
> >
> > Right-O there trooper, its called a conversation, or
> responding
> > to a specific point and tossing the rest [saves
> electrons]. I
> > honestly will work on the 'this crap pours out of me
> faster than
> > I can get it down' aspect and maybe try to make more
> of the "less
> > integrated chunks" you seem to be requesting as a
> measure of my
> > not having any humanities credits.  I guess I
> should feel lucky
> > you can't criticise my penmanship.
> >
> > Try to truly comprehend and internalize this. 
> ****Understand
> > that we/you are talking about "word arrangements"
> here,**** and
> > somebody is shitting out a diamond because their are
> crumbs in
> > their tea cup.
> >
> > Though hey, why not enjoy it? I would think that you
> would jump
> > at another way to diversify the weaponizing of the
> garbage can
> > lid you are wielding.  It would give you the
> opportunity to cut
> > things to ribbons in ever more diverse ways, an
> unlimited amount
> > of fragments to be incensed by and millions of
> possible meanings
> > to take offense from… due to rearrangement of the
> meaning of
> > course.
> >
> >> Have you any idea of how
> >> ugly and lazy it appears?
> >
> > See you create your own malady, it is difficult to lay
> off
> > "straight lines" like this…. though I must, out of
> jaw dropping
> > astonishment,…. so, uh, yup, got an idea…. yup, I
> do I do I
> > do.  Though its is not the worst of my vices.
> >
> >> Its not even a shorthand for
> >> anything, not even excusable on email. It doesnt
> even come
> >> near the quality of what an argument should look
> like.
> >
> > "Quality" I do not understand, "near a quality" I am
> really lost
> > there, though what an argument "is", maybe I can do
> better with
> > that, though there's that monism thing that you object
> to.  When
> > I make an argument or need one, I promise that you
> will be the
> > first one to know, I promise, right after my mum as a
> predicate
> > to it of course.
> >
> > That, a $1.80, and a Western Union number will get you
> a cup of
> > coffee.
> >
> >> Its
> >> just a grotesque lazy studenty way of writing,
> done inbetween
> >> Burger Kings no doubt. The reckoning being, well
> Ive obeyed
> >> the mechanistic anti plagiary rules this
> regurgitation of
> >> other peoples ideas, this is what passes for
> discourse.
> >
> > Hey no! Really! What you say/post makes no difference,
> I am just
> > conserving space! Though from what you say here, I
> think that
> > makes you the "whopper"…
> >
> > I think there probably are better "whoppers" on this
> list if I
> > needed one.
> >
> > Though just as long as you do not call the other 107
> posts in
> > these threads "discourse" we actually have a common
> reference.
> >
> >> Its no
> >> such thing dont kid yourself. You might be able to
> get by with
> >> this crap you come out with all the time on some
> cheap
> >> plasticky humanities course, right up to PhD
> level, but Im not
> >> putting up with it.
> >
> > Not all academics are stupid, lazy, or square.
> >
> > Not all situationists are revolutionaries…
> >
> > Not all four letter words are easy to spell or
> define.
> >
> >> I dont know where you got your education
> >> but I detect no trace of anything that fuses two
> different
> >> ideas to make something new. To put it bluntly
> there is
> >> something fascistic about the way you deliver that
> makes me
> >> want to throw up.
> >
> > Its ok, given the looseness of this conjecture, I have
> enough
> > iodine for the both of us. Btw, do I get a choice of
> who I "fuse"
> > with?
> >
> >> I think its the illusion that you live in a
> >> world of reason that does it for me. like, this
> guy thinks hes
> >> some kind of fucking Voltaire or what? Thats why I
> treat you
> >> and FM with the contempt you deserve.
> >
> > No Jean, you just write, please, let go, burn it all
> until all
> > the steam cooks out of the existential boiler…. and
> leave it up
> > to our illusions or history as to what is contempt…
> or
> > reasonable. We will excavate the fire pit looking for
> what it was
> > like to actually have lived in your time with a grid.
> >
> >> Its all showmaster
> >> rabbit out of the hat cheap trickery masquerading
> as something
> >> else. And dont ask me to point to something
> specific. I am not
> >> a reasonable person, I dont play by rules.
> >
> > In case you were really worried about it, I haven't
> any plans any
> > time soon to ask you to "point to something specific"
> btw.
> >
> > Without wanting to engage the species specific and
> myopic
> > dominion of puffing out big enough to fill up my
> entire cell,
> > what the fuck makes you think that you know the
> substance of what
> > I am referencing?
> >
> >> Its just something
> >> in what you put up that is generically rotten. I
> can just
> >> sense it and thats enough for me
> >
> > However, Jean, it will never replace using your brain
> for
> > something besides sitting on. [by style no less!]
> Generically
> > speaking, that is.
> >
> > And it still is not much of a defense for being a
> relentless
> > prick, even if it looks good in print.
> >
> > Jean, you are old, stop wasting your youth acting like
> you aren't.
> >
> > Something besides trolling perhaps?  Shorter
> swords maybe?  Maybe
> > try giving someone else here the benefit of something
> they can't
> > get from a bottle broken in their face…?
> >
> > drake
> >
> >> tb
> >>
> >> —- On Wed, 16/3/11, R Drake Ewbank<drake-AT-efn.org" onclick="return newWindow(this.href);">drake-AT-efn.org>   wrote:
> >>
> >>> From: R Drake Ewbank<drake-AT-efn.org" onclick="return newWindow(this.href);">drake-AT-efn.org> 
> Subject: "Do Not Pass"
> >>> does not favor the house To: "Discussions of
> situationist
> >>> theory"<situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org" onclick="return newWindow(this.href);">situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org> 
> Date: Wednesday,
> >>> 16 March, 2011, 20:16 On 3/16/2011 10:21 AM,
> JEAN PARR
> >>> wrote:
> >>>> whats that supposed to mean. Dont make me
> attack you
> >>> or youl
> >>>> be sorry you ever stepped foot in here, Im
> not in the
> >>> mood.
> >>>
> >>> Jean,
> >>>
> >>> In the last burst of highly incisive "list
> activity"…
> >>>
> >>> I have found two and a half posts, one the
> USAID post, one
> >>> FWD: SBY post, and marginally, the Lester
> Bangs post I
> >>> replied to. These are the only posts I can
> find that had
> >>> anything to do with anything that I would not
> qualify as
> >>> 'bashing therapy' where one verbal injury
> begets another
> >>> entropically.
> >>>
> >>> Other possibly notable exceptions are the
> Juvenilia thread
> >>> where you decided to respond to the entire
> city of
> >>> Florence, which I thought at least novel, and
> a few detailed
> >>> explanations of
> >>>
> >>> derives and Richard, up to the point of
> Indiana Jones
> >>> becoming involved.
> >>>
> >>> 113 individual posts since March 10, like the
> proliferation
> >>> of whistles at a football game. 5% is a good
> figure if you
> >>> are a bond dealer… not much if looking for a
> critique up
> >>> to the times that we live in… not to mention
> those that
> >>> won't even survive even the first 25-50
> missives…
> >>>
> >>> As for threats of attacking me for posting
> something that
> >>> you maybe would be agitated by the meaning of
> [as in Paris,
> >>> the
> >>>
> >>> geographic source of the subject matter of the
> list here -
> >>>
> >>> meaning = we should be up to something here
> that would
> >>> justify where we come from].
> >>>
> >>> Realistically though, beyond a certain
> emotional
> >>> satisfaction, do you really think that there
> is an upside
> >>> for the abuse that
> >>>
> >>> having to "voyeurize" and sit through all of
> this unsated
> >>> acrimony represents?
> >>>
> >>> Yes, there is lots of stuff going on, and
> chances to "do
> >>> something" exist in both the smallest and the
> most life
> >>> threatening opportunities… it all depends on
> what one
> >>> wants to risk and for what.
> >>>
> >>> Reminds me of the phrase about work from one
> of the SI
> >>> treatises-
> >>>
> >>> "Work is the amount of real life that one is
> willing to
> >>> trade for money…"
> >>>
> >>> In this case it would be an odd sort of
> converse, something
> >>> like
> >>>
> >>> "Real life is the amount of existence one is
> willing to risk
> >>> to be alive."
> >>>
> >>> And as for being "sorry for ever stepping foot
> in here," I
> >>> was here when the principle voices who now
> comprise the
> >>> balance of dialogue on the list arrived… so
> admittedly I
> >>> am a relic from before.  And the
> expectation was both that
> >>> it was open and no one could count on being
> "stepped on" as
> >>> contrasted with being drawn into a discussion
> of issues or
> >>> actions.
> >>>
> >>> Not to be pessimistic, though. I actually try
> to reply or
> >>> post when there is something here that does
> not, by
> >>> necessity, draw on my limited ability to
> insult or
> >>> vituperatively express the terms of my
> barriers to
> >>> understanding others.
> >>>
> >>> I'm not saying its not a talent, I am just
> saying that I do
> >>> not have it… so I stick with what I can do.
> >>>
> >>> I like what you write, Jean, though I really
> hope it is ok
> >>> to express my regrets when the context doesn't
> give you
> >>> very much to work with. It is not the only
> talent here if we
> >>> don't beat each other to death.
> >>>
> >>> drake
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Theres all this shit going down everywhere
> and all you
> >>> can
> >>>> think of is your fucking vanity all of you
> you know
> >>> what its
> >>>> just voyeuristic delinquent and obscene.
> So if you
> >>> dont come
> >>>> up with a good explanation of into
> everyone, I will
> >>> make your
> >>>> head spin off your shoulders
> >>>>
> >>>> —- On Wed, 16/3/11, drake-AT-efn.org" onclick="return newWindow(this.href);">drake-AT-efn.org<drake-AT-efn.org" onclick="return newWindow(this.href);">drake-AT-efn.org>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> From: drake-AT-efn.org" onclick="return newWindow(this.href);">drake-AT-efn.org<drake-AT-efn.org" onclick="return newWindow(this.href);">drake-AT-efn.org>
> >>> Subject: Re:
> >>>>> adventurousness = SI To: "Discussions
> of
> >>> situationist
> >>>>> theory"<situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org" onclick="return newWindow(this.href);">situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org>
> >>> Date: Wednesday,
> >>>>> 16 March, 2011, 15:29
> >>>>>
> >>>>> …into everyone.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Why do you crave to be a victim
> all the time?
> >>> You set
> >>>>> yourself up
> >>>>>> for this its like nail biting just
> a habit an
> >>> itch to
> >>>>> want
> >>>>>> everyone to think youre stupid
> Youd think
> >>> Paris would have
> >>>>>> knocked some sense into
> >>>>> you
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> —- On Wed, 16/3/11, FM<freemodulation-AT-gmail.com" onclick="return newWindow(this.href);">freemodulation-AT-gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> From: FM<freemodulation-AT-gmail.com" onclick="return newWindow(this.href);">freemodulation-AT-gmail.com>
> >>> Subject: Re:
> >>>>>> adventurousness = SI To:
> "Discussions of
> >>> situationist
> >>>>>> theory"<situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org" onclick="return newWindow(this.href);">situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org>
> >>> Date:
> >>>>>> Wednesday, 16 March, 2011, 6:26
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> vikki displays her macho attitude
> now,
> >>> australian
> >>>>> cowgirl
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ilgiorno 16/mar/2011, alle ore
> 03.01, Vikki
> >>> Riley ha
> >>>>> scritto:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Oh no, FM just goes around
> shooting shit like
> >>>>> "Ass-kissed" and
> >>>>>> "babe" Do that here and they'd
> call you a
> >>> poofter FM.
> >>>>> Seriously. Or just
> >>>>>> fucking chase you out of the bar.
> Unless you
> >>> were in
> >>>>> THROB where
> >>>>>> the US navy gays hang out.
> Querelle style.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> VR
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 7:35 AM,
> richard
> >>> haden
> >>>>>> <richard_haden-AT-yahoo.com" onclick="return newWindow(this.href);">richard_haden-AT-yahoo.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> "I don't argue with anyone,"
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> RH
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> From: FM<Previous message in thread   |   Next message in thread

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Re: adventurousness = SI / richard haden / 15 Mar 2011
• Re: "Do Not Pass" does not favor the house / Vikki Riley <riley.vikki-AT-gmail.com> / 01 Jan 1970

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