From: FM-2030 <freemodulation-AT-gmail.com>
Date: 23 Aug 2010 10:11:16 UTC   (12:11:16 PM in author's locale)
To: Discussions of situationist theory <situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org>

I didn't intend to provide the list with an exhaustive directory of what could be included in the locution "pornography"

Even less to list a complete bibliography on porn. Damn, quel horreur! Just the idea makes me feel (intellectually) raped.

I appreciated Drake's effort to force the bounds in which the last century's sterile common sense and cultural heritage constrain our conception of "porn" within banal coordinates, that is moralistic coordinates.

That's why I would never mention people like Andrea Dworkin

Here she is (was):



I have to admit that I always loved fleshy people.
I also found eye-bags and round circles quite appealing.

But in this case I would probably opt for Ozzy Osbourne.

(sorry I could not resist)

So here we go back to Drake's statements concerning the change in the definition of pornography.

As we all surely know, definitions actually change when practices change.
So the theory must be updated according to the praxis.

But if we are co-opted by the right-wingers or by the feminists (which actually share a "put-the-blame-on-porn" viewpoint) then we will remain in but a fleeting illusion to get a proper idea of what porn actually has become.

We cannot keep on being co-opted by blind conservative positions of people who at their best say "Nothing interesting about pornography. Part of capitalism." and then suggest to read Andrea Dworkin. That is: porn is interesting in so far as it represent a chance for us to blame on it.

The more porn changes his actual status and practices the more the feminist and the right-winger scream on it (the latter probably is a porn user too in his/her own privacy). But I see that they cannot realize the far-reaching consequences of porn mutations.

What is really surprising is that even radicals and left-wingers are moralizing on porn. Few of them are ready to analyze it and to see what's going on there.

I think they are scared mainly because the "screen" has definitely lost his ability to conceal. The screen does not separate the spectators from the spectacle. The screen does not protect anymore. It doesn't shelter the audience.

Cronenberg's Videodrome sinister prophecy has taken place.
Sci-fi is not fiction anymore.
The doors are wide open.
We are free to enter the reign of flesh-coil mutual dependence.
The transhuman condition.

FM-2030 !

We cannot keep on sleeping, resting on self-righteous reassuring good-old-days principles, because of being co-opted by the same usual feminist conservative moralistic rant. The talk about porn is just a pretext. Do you see it now?

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FM





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FM

Il giorno 23/ago/2010, alle ore 07.38, Vikki Riley ha scritto:

> FM's post missed one very important figure re pornography. No not The
> Cure....Andrea Dworkin!!!!!!
>
> Vikki
>
> On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 8:26 AM, R Drake Ewbank <drake-AT-efn.org> wrote:

>> I found your post useful, FM. Just to get in before the storm hits here...
>>
>> (...)

>> On 8/22/2010 12:08 PM, FM wrote:
>>>
>>> ---
>>>
>>> "pornography" is a too wide meaning word... it numbers very different
>>> pieces:
>>>
>>> Joyce's /Ulysses/ (charged of pornography by the Court of New York in
>>> the 1920)
>>>
>>> Japanese hentai (both anime and manga)
>>>
>>> Jeff Koons's /Made in Heaven/ (portraying Ilona Staller with Koons
>>> himself)
>>>
>>> The Pasolini's /Porno-Teo-Kolossal/ (unfinished)
>>>
>>> The Play Boy issue #11 of November 1995, released in Braille
>>>
>>> Rocco Siffredi's /Animal Trainer/
>>>
>>> And many more...
>>>
>>> I think there might be an interesting side of porn - not as users: I
>>> recently read that Pakistan curiously appears to be the first country in
>>> web porn use... sigh!
>>> Beyond the moralistic crusades of feminism and the exorcisms of the
>>> right-winger, some interesting considerations on the popular pornography
>>> are possible:
>>>
>>> LINDA WILLIAMS (edited by), /Porn Studies/, Durham and London, Duke
>>> University Press, 2004
>>> A.C. HALL, M.J. BISHOP (edited by), /Pop-Porn. Pornography in American
>>> Culture/, Westport, CT, Praeger, 2007.
>>> SIMONE REGAZZONI, /Pornosofia. Filosofia del Pop Porno/, Ponte Alle
>>> Grazie, 2010
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> FM
>>>
>>>
>>> Il giorno 11/ago/2010, alle ore 15.07, Nicolás Leandro Goldin ha scritto:
>>>
>>>> What lead me to write now is this website
>>>> adultfilm.tumblr.com/archive/2010/7. This site contains photos
>>>> of porn scenarios. The photographer is in the porn industry and it
>>>> shows the scenography and production that people usually don´t care
>>>> about in movies.
>>>> It would be another way to consider porn and what is to really make
>>>> porn and create a scenario to film a porn movie. Something really
>>>> subjective between erotism, sadomasoquism... etc.
>>>> Another thing that i discovered last year is this guy
>>>> www.thecobrasnake.com/ the Cobra Snake. What do you think about
>>>> him? What shocked me is that he takes pics of partys, although they
>>>> are not porn, I feel like they have a big amount of porn sense. I
>>>> don´t know how to explain it. And he is famous.
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