From: JEAN PARR <jeanparr-AT-btinternet.com>
Date: 26 Feb 2010 11:24:58 UTC   (06:24:58 AM in author's locale)
To: Situationist <situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org>

in search of the Minotaur you mean. Tell me what language isnt. I speak a mixture of Martian and Venusian on account of my galactic butterfly lifestyle. Always wondering what Italian coffee machine to buy next to put in my gleaming spacecraft coachwork by Pinninfarini. Niggamotherfuckin earthling.

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--- On Thu, 25/2/10, Free Mod <freemod-AT-free.fr> wrote:

> From: Free Mod <freemod-AT-free.fr>
> Subject: Re: Malcolm De Chazal, creole and... Lefevbre (Vikki)
> To: "Situationist" <situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org>
> Date: Thursday, 25 February, 2010, 3:31
> :-)
>
> do you mean "diamine"?
>
> the idea of obviousness is not so obvious, then we need to
> update it
>
> (on my opinion there's nothing in this creole author which
> suggest situ-flavours)
>
> creole language is spoken in dozen countries, mostly
> everywhere there was french domination and african slavery
>
> as we already said and Vikki clearly knows it is a melange
> of african dialects/languages and french, it also called
> broken french, français cassé ! Most of the Seychellois
> prefer english (language and people)
>
> I have some friend who speak creole, women from Seychelles
> and Maurice Islands are really beautiful. In Maurice they
> are more similar to south Indian / Maldivian... actually the
> most beautiful I could imagine.
>
> But I don't like creole language, it could be good to sing
> songs and even in that field it leaves much to be desired,
> let's say it is so sweet that sounds nauseating, not as
> deeply as the disgusting french !!!
>
> Why don't we speak about Lefevbre who inspired the COBRA
> and the Situationist idea of everyday life ? I mean it was a
> good hint from the touchy Mr Maxwell Clark, the vertical
> blogger in search for moderators...
>
>
> meditate gente------------------->Free Moderator
>
>
> Il giorno 25/feb/2010, alle ore 04.14, Vikki Riley ha
> scritto:
>
> > Diamani!!!
> >
> > ciao
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 9:49 PM, Free Mod <freemod-AT-free.fr>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I guess I need to change my idea of obviousness
> >> !
> >>
> >>
> >> Il giorno 24/feb/2010, alle ore 11.45, Vikki Riley
> ha scritto:
> >>
> >>> revolution of everday life aphorisms...its
> obvious
> >>> Vikki
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 9:41 PM, Free Mod
> <freemod-AT-free.fr>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> No sherif for me, no eggs on your face
> >>>> just wonder: where is the Vaneigem
> similitude in this mauritian author?
> >>>>
> >>>> FM
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Il giorno 24/feb/2010, alle ore 11.37,
> Vikki Riley ha scritto:
> >>>>
> >>>>> FM
> >>>>> Love the Rosicrucian connection. Yes
> it is in French, but he still
> >>>>> would have spoken Creole like all
> Mauritians. The inflection is clear
> >>>>> in the language of his work. I
> speak/understand a lot of it. Have
> >>>>> lived with a Mauritian now, on and off
> for 7 years. We got a lot of
> >>>>> them here in Australie.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> A Sherif you may be but this aint no
> episode of Bonanza.
> >>>>> We say "The Jacks" or mor pertinent,
> "The pigs"
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Vikki,
> >>>>> no egg on my face just sharing the
> wonders of Chezal, you connect the
> >>>>> dots.......
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Free
> Mod <freemod-AT-free.fr>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Malcolm de Chazal (12 September
> 1902- 1 October 1981) was a Mauritian writer, painter, and
> visionary, known especially for his Sens-Plastique, a work
> consisting of several thousand aphorisms and pensées. He
> was born in Vacoas of a French family long established in
> Mauritius and wrote all his works in French. All his works
> are in french! His parents were both french people who moved
> in Mauritius and belonging in a family of mystics. One of
> his ancestors, François de Chazal of Genesté, was
> Rosicrucian, at the end of the 18th century. Himself had a
> vision of the world very impressed of mysticism and
> certainly influenced by the formation received at the Church
> of the New Jerusalem which follows the principles of the
> thought of Emanuel Swedenborg.... Swedenborg! My god! We
> were complaining for the german names and the obscure
> heideggerean language on a SI list and now we stumble across
> the sweden father of north european mysticism !?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Now Vikki I am not playing at the
> check point sherif nor trying to embargo your proposals, but
> please could you tell us where are the situationist or the
> Vaneigem vibes that you found in this author? Might they be
> noticed in their I-Ching similitude?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> with a pinch of humor,
> >>>>>> FM
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Il giorno 23/feb/2010, alle ore
> 23.47, Vikki Riley ha scritto:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> FM
> >>>>>>> Not aware of Chezal being in
> Paris, he was native of Moris, Port Louis.
> >>>>>>> Creole Francais is a bona fide
> language, Haiti would have the most
> >>>>>>> speakers I guess.
> >>>>>>> Vikki
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 11:39
> PM, Free Mod <freemod-AT-free.fr>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Jesus... a book in creole?
> I didn't know it. What a patriot.
> >>>>>>>> But he was in Paris at the
> time, why to write in creole?
> >>>>>>>> Who read it in the
> original language? 4, 5 guys? His cleaning woman?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Then I was right to get a
> glimpse of surrealist drops in this author.
> >>>>>>>> I want to deepen him, well
> done Mme Riley. How is Australia these days?
> >>>>>>>> I would go crazy to visit
> that continent, who knows... one day.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Best wishes,
> >>>>>>>> d
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Il giorno 23/feb/2010,
> alle ore 08.32, Vikki Riley ha scritto:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> FM, Richard and all
> the gang,
> >>>>>>>>> SENS PLASTIQUE is a
> very important book for the way it posits itself
> >>>>>>>>> between Surrealism
> (Victor Segalen "The Other", Andre Breton and
> >>>>>>>>> sensations, eroticism)
> and the lead up to the SI.
> >>>>>>>>> Of course because
> Chezal was from Mauritius the original is in Creole,
> >>>>>>>>> itself a post colonial
> melange of language and appropriation. This
> >>>>>>>>> book is very much on
> par with psycho geographical ideas of the SI.
> >>>>>>>>> I'm sure it is not
> hard to find a copy. It can be used like the I Ching
> >>>>>>>>> Vikki
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 23, 2010
> at 5:35 AM, Free Mod <freemod-AT-free.fr>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks Vikki,
> thanx a lot
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Malcolm De Chazal
> is amazing, not exactly "interesting"... to a certain extent
> his work falls within positions of naturalistic pantheism
> and humanism, from Goethe to Spinoza. I am sorry for
> recalling german authors 'de nuevo'... ha haa aaah By the
> way, Richard and me did not quote a sentence by Heidegger in
> the previous thread, but I see that the german prof may be
> not stimulating and I keep on seeing the great distance to
> situationist discoursive order and language.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> By the way, I want
> to say that in Malcolm De Chazal work I see less
> situationism than in Heidegger's reflections. Some
> surrealistic drops?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Ciao,
> >>>>>>>>>> FM
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> «My philosophical
> position in this work derives from the principle that man
> and nature are entirely continuous, and that all parts of
> the human body and all expressions of the human face,
> including their feelings, can actually be discerned in
> plants, flowers, and fruits, and to an even greater extent
> in our other selves, animals. And although minerals are
> usually considered inanimate, death-like rather than
> life-like, I would have them also tend towards that supreme
> synthesis, the human form, especially when they are in
> motion. Man was made in the image of God, but beyond that I
> declare that Nature was made in the image of man.» (Malcolm
> De Chazal)
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Il giorno
> 22/feb/2010, alle ore 03.41, Vikki Riley ha scritto:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> tout:
> >>>>>>>>>>> sorry spelling
> mistake, chazal not chezal, see below, referring to the
> >>>>>>>>>>> great book
> "sens plastique"
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Malcolm De
> Chazal (1902-1981)
> >>>>>>>>>>
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