From: Vikki Riley <riley.vikki-AT-gmail.com>
Date: 11 Jul 2009 20:31:51 UTC   (04:31:51 PM in author's locale)
To: Situationist <situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org>

Isso
A glimpse of what it would look like, from our environment minister Peter
Garett's band
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:MidnightOil_RedSails.jpg
Vikki

On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Vikki Riley <riley.vikki-AT-gmail.com> wrote:

> After a few discussions with friends I reckon yes it probably is worth
> turning to ashes, the Sydney Opera House I mean....
> elitist venue for people who pay for kultcha when they have none
> themselves.
> NK has been DOWN here don't worry. Selling heroin from ships.
> Vikki
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 3:34 PM, JEAN PARR <jeanparr-AT-btinternet.com>wrote:
>
>> He wont have time, dont worry. It will serve Isso right when the Koreans
>> airburst
>> Smalldicksville by mistake
>>
>> The Mantis
>>
>> --- On Sat, 11/7/09, Vikki Riley <riley.vikki-AT-gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Vikki Riley <riley.vikki-AT-gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: The media revolt in Iran
>> To: "Situationist" <situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org>
>> Date: Saturday, 11 July, 2009, 5:24 AM
>>
>>
>> Choose another national icon for your cliches Isso.
>> And who is going to attack Australia and why?
>> Come on you seem to know.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 1:40 AM, ISSO Stark <issostark-AT-yahoo.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Right, will you still laugh when the Sydney Opera House is in ashes?
>> > isso
>> >
>> > --- On Fri, 10/7/09, Vikki Riley <riley.vikki-AT-gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > From: Vikki Riley <riley.vikki-AT-gmail.com>
>> > Subject: Re: The media revolt in Iran
>> > To: "Situationist" <situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org>
>> > Date: Friday, 10 July, 2009, 6:51 AM
>> >
>> >
>> > Predicable or not predicable tweety pie
>> > Smuckertash and all that jazz
>> > Geezus yoove revealed your true colours.
>> > Scared of muslims. Hilarious.
>> > VV Veiled Vikki
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:31 PM, ISSO Stark <issostark-AT-yahoo.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Since
>> > > Io
>> > > has decided to auto silence himself/herself,
>> > > we should really look at the problem.
>> > > However, we cannot shake hands with a
>> > > potential nuclear threat
>> > >
>> > > isso
>> > >
>> > > --- On Fri, 10/7/09, Vikki Riley <riley.vikki-AT-gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > From: Vikki Riley <riley.vikki-AT-gmail.com>
>> > > Subject: Re: The media revolt in Iran
>> > > To: "Situationist" <situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org>
>> > > Date: Friday, 10 July, 2009, 2:38 AM
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Am in stitches laughing little man
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 8:27 AM, ISSO Stark <issostark-AT-yahoo.co.uk>
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Really?
>> > > > I couldn't even finish kknitting.
>> > > >
>> > > > isso
>> > > >
>> > > > --- On Mon, 6/7/09, Vikki Riley <riley.vikki-AT-gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > From: Vikki Riley <riley.vikki-AT-gmail.com>
>> > > > Subject: Re: The media revolt in Iran
>> > > > To: "Situationist" <situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org>
>> > > > Date: Monday, 6 July, 2009, 2:26 AM
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Dear Diana
>> > > >
>> > > > I was working with about 40 refugees from Afghanistan, Iran and Iraq
>> > when
>> > > > 9/11 happened. Teaching.
>> > > > All my students wrote essays about it. Some for some against.
>> > > > A lot of my students were attacked by racists at the school gates.
>> We
>> > > have
>> > > > independent Islamic colleges here.
>> > > > Australia maybe a little enlightened but I think people here are
>> just
>> > > quick
>> > > > to take on new ideas.
>> > > > Those with flexible minds, not the old conservative establishment
>> > > however.
>> > > > Also we have something unique here, called sbs.
>> > > > Its a TV and radio channel in at least 26 languages, set up in 1972
>> by
>> > > the
>> > > > then PM,
>> > > > Gough Whitlam who kind of radicalised the country forevermore.
>> > > > To be fair though, the Cheney/Bush propaganda re Islamic society has
>> > been
>> > > > so
>> > > > effective that it resembles Jon Voigt
>> > > > in Runaway Train. Millions of dollars which could have been spent on
>> > > > educating North Americans about the geo-political world beyond
>> Mexico
>> > > > have been pumped into this propaganda.
>> > > > Its sad you had friends who died in the tower, sadder still that
>> Afghan
>> > > > women and children are blown up every day by US marines.
>> > > > No memorial plaques for them.
>> > > >
>> > > > Vikki
>> > > >
>> > > > On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Diana Manister <
>> dmanister-AT-hotmail.com
>> > > > >wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Vikki my experience in New York is that Muslims are regarded as
>> dumb
>> > > > > towel-heads only fit to drive taxis and go to mosques where they
>> are
>> > > told
>> > > > > what to think and feel by imams. You must live in an enlightened
>> > > society.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > And yes not only did I witness the towers fall from across NY Bay
>> in
>> > > > Staten
>> > > > > Island, but I recently worked at the Taiwan Visitors' Bureau on
>> the
>> > > 80th
>> > > > > floor of the North Tower. I knew many of the people who still
>> worked
>> > > > there,
>> > > > > such as the food court staff and the ladies' room attendant who
>> was a
>> > > pal
>> > > > of
>> > > > > mind.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Staten Island is a borough of NYC known to be the home of many
>> > > > > firefighters, police and other civil servants. We had a funeral or
>> > two
>> > > > every
>> > > > > week for months, as more bodies were found. The firefighters have
>> > their
>> > > > own
>> > > > > bagpipe players who attend every funeral.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I was working at the Staten Island Childrens' Museum on 9/11,
>> right
>> > > > across
>> > > > > the water from the WTC. Our receptionist's husband was among the
>> > > > > firefighters in the towers when they fell. He was about to retire.
>> > She
>> > > > was
>> > > > > the towers fall knowing he was in one. They never found him, so
>> the
>> > > > funeral
>> > > > > was performed over an empty coffin.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Perhaps you know I am writing a long poem that includes a
>> > surrealistic
>> > > > > visit to the post-9/11 site where the towers fell.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Very best,
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Diana
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 03:19:43 +0000
>> > > > > > From: jeanparr-AT-btinternet.com
>> > > > > > Subject: Re: The media revolt in Iran
>> > > > > > To: situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Dear Diana and Vikki
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I didnt see this post first time round. I think about this
>> > > catastrophic
>> > > > > attack with regularity. There is a consensual tendency to see it
>> > (9/11)
>> > > > as
>> > > > > another Pearl Harbour. Radio operators garbling signals that kind
>> of
>> > > > thing.
>> > > > > > It always strikes me as truly biblical in scale. Something that
>> > > should
>> > > > > appear in cave paintings.
>> > > > > > I think the failure to intercept was more to do with an
>> inability
>> > to
>> > > > > imagine the New York skyline being dismantled. Did you witness
>> it?
>> > > Thats
>> > > > a
>> > > > > stupid question. Being a New Yorker you must have been part of it
>> > even
>> > > > post
>> > > > > event.
>> > > > > > It wasnt prevented because no one had modelled what amounted to
>> a
>> > > chain
>> > > > > reaction of causation and effect.
>> > > > > > I dont see that any nation perceives the Muslim world as being
>> > > > > uneducated and unscientific. Extreme, fanatical, yes.
>> > > > > > I wake up still shocked by 9/11. It just wont go away. There are
>> > > always
>> > > > > new photographs and testimony that emerge. This event must have
>> left
>> > > > great
>> > > > > swathes of the population traumatised for good. Imagine, a human
>> > > > engineered
>> > > > > earthquake. It leaves America on a permanent war footing, and
>> thats
>> > the
>> > > > > iniquitous legacy.
>> > > > > > You know that the ones who died were young people because thats
>> > what
>> > > > you
>> > > > > find in offices. And what did they do to deserve that?
>> > > > > > I wouldnt make a very good President of the United States. I
>> would
>> > > have
>> > > > > wiped out North Koreas nuclear facility in a pre emptive strike,
>> then
>> > > > turned
>> > > > > to the Chinese and said one false move and your next. Pisspot
>> little
>> > > > nation,
>> > > > > who the fuck do they think they are?
>> > > > > > You see? I had to punch a few heads on the Underground once,
>> > applying
>> > > > the
>> > > > > same tactic. You see, Im just not head boy material
>> > > > > > Was the 9/11 attack driven by emotion or logic? Will someone
>> come
>> > > > forward
>> > > > > and tell us one day?
>> > > > > > Ceci n'est pas un immeuble. Theres more than a little bit of
>> that
>> > > too.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Jean
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > --- On Fri, 3/7/09, Vikki Riley <riley.vikki-AT-gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > From: Vikki Riley <riley.vikki-AT-gmail.com>
>> > > > > > Subject: Re: The media revolt in Iran
>> > > > > > To: "Situationist" <situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org>
>> > > > > > Date: Friday, 3 July, 2009, 4:56 AM
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Diana
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > For sure! I mean the Islamic world invented calculus, algebra,
>> all
>> > > > kinds
>> > > > > of
>> > > > > > mathematical concepts.
>> > > > > > And pomegranate juice! Highest amount of Vitamin C and cancer
>> > > fighting
>> > > > > > antioxidants in one hit.
>> > > > > > As for Persian poetry... Hafiz, Saadi
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Vikki
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Diana Manister <
>> > > dmanister-AT-hotmail.com
>> > > > > >wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Dear Vikki and Jean,
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Don't you think that image of Muslims as abject, uneducated,
>> > > > > unscientific
>> > > > > > > religious fanatics worked against us in guarding the U.S.
>> against
>> > > > > terrorist
>> > > > > > > attacks?
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > No one thought they would be smart enough to use our own
>> planes
>> > > > against
>> > > > > us
>> > > > > > > as weapons, or coordinate such an intricate and
>> multi-factored
>> > > plan.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Whenever I said, around the time of 9/11, that the terrorists
>> > were
>> > > > > > > brilliant, I got a bad reaction. I suppose that is
>> understandable
>> > > in
>> > > > > those
>> > > > > > > circumstances, but it was a symptom of how much we
>> underestimate
>> > > > them.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Diana
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:51:24 +0930
>> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: The media revolt in Iran
>> > > > > > > > From: riley.vikki-AT-gmail.com
>> > > > > > > > To: situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Jean
>> > > > > > > > Not only Georgie. Some folks on this list, eg Chris Gray are
>> > > > > suspicious
>> > > > > > > of
>> > > > > > > > anything Muslims do. As if they are primates who can't
>> navigate
>> > > the
>> > > > > web.
>> > > > > > > > Seen a Persian site? Its lateral, that is writing runs
>> > horizontal
>> > > > > from
>> > > > > > > right
>> > > > > > > > to left. English sites scroll down, left to right eye on
>> text.
>> > > > > > > > Vikki
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 2:46 PM, JEAN PARR <
>> > > jeanparr-AT-btinternet.com
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Vikki
>> > > > > > > > > Funny isnt it. I wont sign up to Facebook here because I
>> > think
>> > > > its
>> > > > > a
>> > > > > > > > > centralised spy databank. And yet, as you have just shown,
>> > its
>> > > a
>> > > > > tool
>> > > > > > > for
>> > > > > > > > > change being used by young people in Iran to challenge
>> this
>> > > > > > > paternalistic
>> > > > > > > > > and largely suffocating way of doing things.
>> > > > > > > > > And George Bush calls this collection of well intentioned
>> and
>> > > > > > > inspirational
>> > > > > > > > > young persons
>> > > > > > > > > "The Axis of Evil"? Or at least he used that label on
>> their
>> > > > > parents.
>> > > > > > > > > Just not helpful is it?
>> > > > > > > > > Jean
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/7/09, Vikki Riley <riley.vikki-AT-gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > From: Vikki Riley <riley.vikki-AT-gmail.com>
>> > > > > > > > > Subject: The media revolt in Iran
>> > > > > > > > > To: "Situationist" <situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org>
>> > > > > > > > > Date: Thursday, 2 July, 2009, 4:52 AM
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
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