From: Vikki Riley <riley.vikki-AT-gmail.com>
Date: 11 Jul 2009 19:29:17 UTC   (04:29:17 PM in author's locale)
To: Situationist <situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org>

After a few discussions with friends I reckon yes it probably is worth
turning to ashes, the Sydney Opera House I mean....
elitist venue for people who pay for kultcha when they have none themselves..
NK has been DOWN here don't worry. Selling heroin from ships.
Vikki

On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 3:34 PM, JEAN PARR <jeanparr-AT-btinternet.com> wrote:

> He wont have time, dont worry. It will serve Isso right when the Koreans
> airburst
> Smalldicksville by mistake
>
> The Mantis
>
> --- On Sat, 11/7/09, Vikki Riley <riley.vikki-AT-gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Vikki Riley <riley.vikki-AT-gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: The media revolt in Iran
> To: "Situationist" <situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org>
> Date: Saturday, 11 July, 2009, 5:24 AM
>
>
> Choose another national icon for your cliches Isso.
> And who is going to attack Australia and why?
> Come on you seem to know.
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 1:40 AM, ISSO Stark <issostark-AT-yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Right, will you still laugh when the Sydney Opera House is in ashes?
> > isso
> >
> > --- On Fri, 10/7/09, Vikki Riley <riley.vikki-AT-gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Vikki Riley <riley.vikki-AT-gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: The media revolt in Iran
> > To: "Situationist" <situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org>
> > Date: Friday, 10 July, 2009, 6:51 AM
> >
> >
> > Predicable or not predicable tweety pie
> > Smuckertash and all that jazz
> > Geezus yoove revealed your true colours.
> > Scared of muslims. Hilarious.
> > VV Veiled Vikki
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:31 PM, ISSO Stark <issostark-AT-yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Since
> > > Io
> > > has decided to auto silence himself/herself,
> > > we should really look at the problem.
> > > However, we cannot shake hands with a
> > > potential nuclear threat
> > >
> > > isso
> > >
> > > --- On Fri, 10/7/09, Vikki Riley <riley.vikki-AT-gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Vikki Riley <riley.vikki-AT-gmail.com>
> > > Subject: Re: The media revolt in Iran
> > > To: "Situationist" <situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org>
> > > Date: Friday, 10 July, 2009, 2:38 AM
> > >
> > >
> > > Am in stitches laughing little man
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 8:27 AM, ISSO Stark <issostark-AT-yahoo.co.uk>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Really?
> > > > I couldn't even finish kknitting.
> > > >
> > > > isso
> > > >
> > > > --- On Mon, 6/7/09, Vikki Riley <riley.vikki-AT-gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: Vikki Riley <riley.vikki-AT-gmail.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: The media revolt in Iran
> > > > To: "Situationist" <situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org>
> > > > Date: Monday, 6 July, 2009, 2:26 AM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dear Diana
> > > >
> > > > I was working with about 40 refugees from Afghanistan, Iran and Iraq
> > when
> > > > 9/11 happened. Teaching.
> > > > All my students wrote essays about it. Some for some against.
> > > > A lot of my students were attacked by racists at the school gates. We
> > > have
> > > > independent Islamic colleges here.
> > > > Australia maybe a little enlightened but I think people here are just
> > > quick
> > > > to take on new ideas.
> > > > Those with flexible minds, not the old conservative establishment
> > > however.
> > > > Also we have something unique here, called sbs.
> > > > Its a TV and radio channel in at least 26 languages, set up in 1972
> by
> > > the
> > > > then PM,
> > > > Gough Whitlam who kind of radicalised the country forevermore.
> > > > To be fair though, the Cheney/Bush propaganda re Islamic society has
> > been
> > > > so
> > > > effective that it resembles Jon Voigt
> > > > in Runaway Train. Millions of dollars which could have been spent on
> > > > educating North Americans about the geo-political world beyond Mexico
> > > > have been pumped into this propaganda.
> > > > Its sad you had friends who died in the tower, sadder still that
> Afghan
> > > > women and children are blown up every day by US marines.
> > > > No memorial plaques for them.
> > > >
> > > > Vikki
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Diana Manister <
> dmanister-AT-hotmail.com
> > > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Vikki my experience in New York is that Muslims are regarded as
> dumb
> > > > > towel-heads only fit to drive taxis and go to mosques where they
> are
> > > told
> > > > > what to think and feel by imams. You must live in an enlightened
> > > society.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > And yes not only did I witness the towers fall from across NY Bay
> in
> > > > Staten
> > > > > Island, but I recently worked at the Taiwan Visitors' Bureau on the
> > > 80th
> > > > > floor of the North Tower. I knew many of the people who still
> worked
> > > > there,
> > > > > such as the food court staff and the ladies' room attendant who was
> a
> > > pal
> > > > of
> > > > > mind.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Staten Island is a borough of NYC known to be the home of many
> > > > > firefighters, police and other civil servants. We had a funeral or
> > two
> > > > every
> > > > > week for months, as more bodies were found. The firefighters have
> > their
> > > > own
> > > > > bagpipe players who attend every funeral.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I was working at the Staten Island Childrens' Museum on 9/11, right
> > > > across
> > > > > the water from the WTC. Our receptionist's husband was among the
> > > > > firefighters in the towers when they fell. He was about to retire..
> > She
> > > > was
> > > > > the towers fall knowing he was in one. They never found him, so the
> > > > funeral
> > > > > was performed over an empty coffin.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Perhaps you know I am writing a long poem that includes a
> > surrealistic
> > > > > visit to the post-9/11 site where the towers fell.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Very best,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Diana
> > > > >
> > > > > > Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 03:19:43 +0000
> > > > > > From: jeanparr-AT-btinternet.com
> > > > > > Subject: Re: The media revolt in Iran
> > > > > > To: situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dear Diana and Vikki
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I didnt see this post first time round. I think about this
> > > catastrophic
> > > > > attack with regularity. There is a consensual tendency to see it
> > (9/11)
> > > > as
> > > > > another Pearl Harbour. Radio operators garbling signals that kind
> of
> > > > thing.
> > > > > > It always strikes me as truly biblical in scale. Something that
> > > should
> > > > > appear in cave paintings.
> > > > > > I think the failure to intercept was more to do with an inability
> > to
> > > > > imagine the New York skyline being dismantled. Did you witness it?
> > > Thats
> > > > a
> > > > > stupid question. Being a New Yorker you must have been part of it
> > even
> > > > post
> > > > > event.
> > > > > > It wasnt prevented because no one had modelled what amounted to a
> > > chain
> > > > > reaction of causation and effect.
> > > > > > I dont see that any nation perceives the Muslim world as being
> > > > > uneducated and unscientific. Extreme, fanatical, yes.
> > > > > > I wake up still shocked by 9/11. It just wont go away. There are
> > > always
> > > > > new photographs and testimony that emerge. This event must have
> left
> > > > great
> > > > > swathes of the population traumatised for good. Imagine, a human
> > > > engineered
> > > > > earthquake. It leaves America on a permanent war footing, and thats
> > the
> > > > > iniquitous legacy.
> > > > > > You know that the ones who died were young people because thats
> > what
> > > > you
> > > > > find in offices. And what did they do to deserve that?
> > > > > > I wouldnt make a very good President of the United States. I
> would
> > > have
> > > > > wiped out North Koreas nuclear facility in a pre emptive strike,
> then
> > > > turned
> > > > > to the Chinese and said one false move and your next. Pisspot
> little
> > > > nation,
> > > > > who the fuck do they think they are?
> > > > > > You see? I had to punch a few heads on the Underground once,
> > applying
> > > > the
> > > > > same tactic. You see, Im just not head boy material
> > > > > > Was the 9/11 attack driven by emotion or logic? Will someone come
> > > > forward
> > > > > and tell us one day?
> > > > > > Ceci n'est pas un immeuble. Theres more than a little bit of that
> > > too.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jean
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- On Fri, 3/7/09, Vikki Riley <riley.vikki-AT-gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: Vikki Riley <riley.vikki-AT-gmail.com>
> > > > > > Subject: Re: The media revolt in Iran
> > > > > > To: "Situationist" <situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org>
> > > > > > Date: Friday, 3 July, 2009, 4:56 AM
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Diana
> > > > > >
> > > > > > For sure! I mean the Islamic world invented calculus, algebra,
> all
> > > > kinds
> > > > > of
> > > > > > mathematical concepts.
> > > > > > And pomegranate juice! Highest amount of Vitamin C and cancer
> > > fighting
> > > > > > antioxidants in one hit.
> > > > > > As for Persian poetry... Hafiz, Saadi
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Vikki
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Diana Manister <
> > > dmanister-AT-hotmail.com
> > > > > >wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Dear Vikki and Jean,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Don't you think that image of Muslims as abject, uneducated,
> > > > > unscientific
> > > > > > > religious fanatics worked against us in guarding the U.S.
> against
> > > > > terrorist
> > > > > > > attacks?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > No one thought they would be smart enough to use our own planes
> > > > against
> > > > > us
> > > > > > > as weapons, or coordinate such an intricate and multi-factored
> > > plan.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Whenever I said, around the time of 9/11, that the terrorists
> > were
> > > > > > > brilliant, I got a bad reaction. I suppose that is
> understandable
> > > in
> > > > > those
> > > > > > > circumstances, but it was a symptom of how much we
> underestimate
> > > > them.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Diana
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:51:24 +0930
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: The media revolt in Iran
> > > > > > > > From: riley.vikki-AT-gmail.com
> > > > > > > > To: situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Jean
> > > > > > > > Not only Georgie. Some folks on this list, eg Chris Gray are
> > > > > suspicious
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > anything Muslims do. As if they are primates who can't
> navigate
> > > the
> > > > > web.
> > > > > > > > Seen a Persian site? Its lateral, that is writing runs
> > horizontal
> > > > > from
> > > > > > > right
> > > > > > > > to left. English sites scroll down, left to right eye on
> text.
> > > > > > > > Vikki
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 2:46 PM, JEAN PARR <
> > > jeanparr-AT-btinternet.com
> > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Vikki
> > > > > > > > > Funny isnt it. I wont sign up to Facebook here because I
> > think
> > > > its
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > centralised spy databank. And yet, as you have just shown,
> > its
> > > a
> > > > > tool
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > change being used by young people in Iran to challenge this
> > > > > > > paternalistic
> > > > > > > > > and largely suffocating way of doing things.
> > > > > > > > > And George Bush calls this collection of well intentioned
> and
> > > > > > > inspirational
> > > > > > > > > young persons
> > > > > > > > > "The Axis of Evil"? Or at least he used that label on their
> > > > > parents.
> > > > > > > > > Just not helpful is it?
> > > > > > > > > Jean
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/7/09, Vikki Riley <riley.vikki-AT-gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > From: Vikki Riley <riley.vikki-AT-gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > Subject: The media revolt in Iran
> > > > > > > > > To: "Situationist" <situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org>
> > > > > > > > > Date: Thursday, 2 July, 2009, 4:52 AM
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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