From: Vikki Riley <riley.vikki-AT-gmail.com>
Date: 11 Jul 2009 17:54:45 UTC   (01:54:45 PM in author's locale)
To: Situationist <situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org>

Choose another national icon for your cliches Isso.
And who is going to attack Australia and why?
Come on you seem to know.

On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 1:40 AM, ISSO Stark <issostark-AT-yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Right, will you still laugh when the Sydney Opera House is in ashes?
> isso
>
> --- On Fri, 10/7/09, Vikki Riley <riley.vikki-AT-gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Vikki Riley <riley.vikki-AT-gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: The media revolt in Iran
> To: "Situationist" <situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org>
> Date: Friday, 10 July, 2009, 6:51 AM
>
>
> Predicable or not predicable tweety pie
> Smuckertash and all that jazz
> Geezus yoove revealed your true colours.
> Scared of muslims. Hilarious.
> VV Veiled Vikki
>
> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 1:31 PM, ISSO Stark <issostark-AT-yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Since
> > Io
> > has decided to auto silence himself/herself,
> > we should really look at the problem.
> > However, we cannot shake hands with a
> > potential nuclear threat
> >
> > isso
> >
> > --- On Fri, 10/7/09, Vikki Riley <riley.vikki-AT-gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Vikki Riley <riley.vikki-AT-gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: The media revolt in Iran
> > To: "Situationist" <situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org>
> > Date: Friday, 10 July, 2009, 2:38 AM
> >
> >
> > Am in stitches laughing little man
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 8:27 AM, ISSO Stark <issostark-AT-yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Really?
> > > I couldn't even finish kknitting.
> > >
> > > isso
> > >
> > > --- On Mon, 6/7/09, Vikki Riley <riley.vikki-AT-gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Vikki Riley <riley.vikki-AT-gmail.com>
> > > Subject: Re: The media revolt in Iran
> > > To: "Situationist" <situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org>
> > > Date: Monday, 6 July, 2009, 2:26 AM
> > >
> > >
> > > Dear Diana
> > >
> > > I was working with about 40 refugees from Afghanistan, Iran and Iraq
> when
> > > 9/11 happened. Teaching.
> > > All my students wrote essays about it. Some for some against.
> > > A lot of my students were attacked by racists at the school gates. We
> > have
> > > independent Islamic colleges here.
> > > Australia maybe a little enlightened but I think people here are just
> > quick
> > > to take on new ideas.
> > > Those with flexible minds, not the old conservative establishment
> > however.
> > > Also we have something unique here, called sbs.
> > > Its a TV and radio channel in at least 26 languages, set up in 1972 by
> > the
> > > then PM,
> > > Gough Whitlam who kind of radicalised the country forevermore.
> > > To be fair though, the Cheney/Bush propaganda re Islamic society has
> been
> > > so
> > > effective that it resembles Jon Voigt
> > > in Runaway Train. Millions of dollars which could have been spent on
> > > educating North Americans about the geo-political world beyond Mexico
> > > have been pumped into this propaganda.
> > > Its sad you had friends who died in the tower, sadder still that Afghan
> > > women and children are blown up every day by US marines.
> > > No memorial plaques for them.
> > >
> > > Vikki
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jul 4, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Diana Manister <dmanister-AT-hotmail.com
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Vikki my experience in New York is that Muslims are regarded as dumb
> > > > towel-heads only fit to drive taxis and go to mosques where they are
> > told
> > > > what to think and feel by imams. You must live in an enlightened
> > society.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > And yes not only did I witness the towers fall from across NY Bay in
> > > Staten
> > > > Island, but I recently worked at the Taiwan Visitors' Bureau on the
> > 80th
> > > > floor of the North Tower. I knew many of the people who still worked
> > > there,
> > > > such as the food court staff and the ladies' room attendant who was a
> > pal
> > > of
> > > > mind.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Staten Island is a borough of NYC known to be the home of many
> > > > firefighters, police and other civil servants. We had a funeral or
> two
> > > every
> > > > week for months, as more bodies were found. The firefighters have
> their
> > > own
> > > > bagpipe players who attend every funeral.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I was working at the Staten Island Childrens' Museum on 9/11, right
> > > across
> > > > the water from the WTC. Our receptionist's husband was among the
> > > > firefighters in the towers when they fell. He was about to retire.
> She
> > > was
> > > > the towers fall knowing he was in one. They never found him, so the
> > > funeral
> > > > was performed over an empty coffin.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps you know I am writing a long poem that includes a
> surrealistic
> > > > visit to the post-9/11 site where the towers fell.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Very best,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Diana
> > > >
> > > > > Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2009 03:19:43 +0000
> > > > > From: jeanparr-AT-btinternet.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: The media revolt in Iran
> > > > > To: situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org
> > > > >
> > > > > Dear Diana and Vikki
> > > > >
> > > > > I didnt see this post first time round. I think about this
> > catastrophic
> > > > attack with regularity. There is a consensual tendency to see it
> (9/11)
> > > as
> > > > another Pearl Harbour. Radio operators garbling signals that kind of
> > > thing.
> > > > > It always strikes me as truly biblical in scale. Something that
> > should
> > > > appear in cave paintings.
> > > > > I think the failure to intercept was more to do with an inability
> to
> > > > imagine the New York skyline being dismantled. Did you witness it?
> > Thats
> > > a
> > > > stupid question. Being a New Yorker you must have been part of it
> even
> > > post
> > > > event.
> > > > > It wasnt prevented because no one had modelled what amounted to a
> > chain
> > > > reaction of causation and effect.
> > > > > I dont see that any nation perceives the Muslim world as being
> > > > uneducated and unscientific. Extreme, fanatical, yes.
> > > > > I wake up still shocked by 9/11. It just wont go away. There are
> > always
> > > > new photographs and testimony that emerge. This event must have left
> > > great
> > > > swathes of the population traumatised for good. Imagine, a human
> > > engineered
> > > > earthquake. It leaves America on a permanent war footing, and thats
> the
> > > > iniquitous legacy.
> > > > > You know that the ones who died were young people because thats
> what
> > > you
> > > > find in offices. And what did they do to deserve that?
> > > > > I wouldnt make a very good President of the United States. I would
> > have
> > > > wiped out North Koreas nuclear facility in a pre emptive strike, then
> > > turned
> > > > to the Chinese and said one false move and your next. Pisspot little
> > > nation,
> > > > who the fuck do they think they are?
> > > > > You see? I had to punch a few heads on the Underground once,
> applying
> > > the
> > > > same tactic. You see, Im just not head boy material
> > > > > Was the 9/11 attack driven by emotion or logic? Will someone come
> > > forward
> > > > and tell us one day?
> > > > > Ceci n'est pas un immeuble. Theres more than a little bit of that
> > too.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jean
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- On Fri, 3/7/09, Vikki Riley <riley.vikki-AT-gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > From: Vikki Riley <riley.vikki-AT-gmail.com>
> > > > > Subject: Re: The media revolt in Iran
> > > > > To: "Situationist" <situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org>
> > > > > Date: Friday, 3 July, 2009, 4:56 AM
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Diana
> > > > >
> > > > > For sure! I mean the Islamic world invented calculus, algebra, all
> > > kinds
> > > > of
> > > > > mathematical concepts.
> > > > > And pomegranate juice! Highest amount of Vitamin C and cancer
> > fighting
> > > > > antioxidants in one hit.
> > > > > As for Persian poetry... Hafiz, Saadi
> > > > >
> > > > > Vikki
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 11:38 PM, Diana Manister <
> > dmanister-AT-hotmail.com
> > > > >wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dear Vikki and Jean,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Don't you think that image of Muslims as abject, uneducated,
> > > > unscientific
> > > > > > religious fanatics worked against us in guarding the U.S. against
> > > > terrorist
> > > > > > attacks?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No one thought they would be smart enough to use our own planes
> > > against
> > > > us
> > > > > > as weapons, or coordinate such an intricate and multi-factored
> > plan.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Whenever I said, around the time of 9/11, that the terrorists
> were
> > > > > > brilliant, I got a bad reaction. I suppose that is understandable
> > in
> > > > those
> > > > > > circumstances, but it was a symptom of how much we underestimate
> > > them.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Diana
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 15:51:24 +0930
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: The media revolt in Iran
> > > > > > > From: riley.vikki-AT-gmail.com
> > > > > > > To: situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Jean
> > > > > > > Not only Georgie. Some folks on this list, eg Chris Gray are
> > > > suspicious
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > anything Muslims do. As if they are primates who can't navigate
> > the
> > > > web.
> > > > > > > Seen a Persian site? Its lateral, that is writing runs
> horizontal
> > > > from
> > > > > > right
> > > > > > > to left. English sites scroll down, left to right eye on text..
> > > > > > > Vikki
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 2:46 PM, JEAN PARR <
> > jeanparr-AT-btinternet.com
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Vikki
> > > > > > > > Funny isnt it. I wont sign up to Facebook here because I
> think
> > > its
> > > > a
> > > > > > > > centralised spy databank. And yet, as you have just shown,
> its
> > a
> > > > tool
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > change being used by young people in Iran to challenge this
> > > > > > paternalistic
> > > > > > > > and largely suffocating way of doing things.
> > > > > > > > And George Bush calls this collection of well intentioned and
> > > > > > inspirational
> > > > > > > > young persons
> > > > > > > > "The Axis of Evil"? Or at least he used that label on their
> > > > parents.
> > > > > > > > Just not helpful is it?
> > > > > > > > Jean
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/7/09, Vikki Riley <riley.vikki-AT-gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > From: Vikki Riley <riley.vikki-AT-gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > Subject: The media revolt in Iran
> > > > > > > > To: "Situationist" <situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org>
> > > > > > > > Date: Thursday, 2 July, 2009, 4:52 AM
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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