From: JEAN PARR <jeanparr-AT-btinternet.com>
Date: 06 Jul 2009 00:10:21 UTC   (07:10:21 PM in author's locale)
To: Situationist <situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org>

Richard
I had a survivalist american booklet once called C5. It showed you how to bore out the twist in a damascus barrel made out of beaten wire,using a drift and a mallet.    They were Kentucky rifles of legend.
I bet you have a tinder box on a belt "fire makings" All Kentucky men do. I have one but not on a belt. I use burnt cotton as a starter and a proper flint not one of those striker things. I made mine out of a broken file, hammered the tang over so you get a finger grip. The whole lot fits in a tobacco tin.
Sorry ladies

--- On Sun, 5/7/09, richard haden <richard_haden-AT-yahoo.com> wrote:

From: richard haden <richard_haden-AT-yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Indian Country
To: "Situationist" <situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org>
Date: Sunday, 5 July, 2009, 6:50 PM

The Davy Crocket thing or Daniel Boone woodsyness came from growing up in rural Kentucky. I carry that over from city to city...something to do with playing in forest that makes one see behind trees, or buildings, or posers posturing as totems.

Richard Haden



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From: JEAN PARR <jeanparr-AT-btinternet.com>
To: Situationist <situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2009 7:02:59 PM
Subject: RE: Indian Country Diana

instead of antique you could call it retro and then it would be about style rather than content. Content is nothing anyway compared to the meehjum. The meehjum is the message. McLuhan.
I go back to the Big Bang. No even before that. Im just background radiation. Strontium Dog.

--- On Sat, 4/7/09, Diana Manister <dmanister-AT-hotmail.com> wrote:

From: Diana Manister <dmanister-AT-hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Indian Country
To: situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org
Date: Saturday, 4 July, 2009, 1:53 PM


Life is a comedy to a man who thinks, and a tragedy to a man who feels. Wordsworth.

Dear Jean,


My Postmodern version of this would be: "feeling's tragics and logic's laughables pinball off the walls of the genderless self." Separating selflets into separate persons is an old view of personhood, don't you agree? And of course limiting people to purely male or female is a purely antique vision.


Best,


Diana





> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 18:58:06 +0000
> From: jeanparr-AT-btinternet.com
> Subject: RE: Indian Country
> To: situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org
>
> Yeah especially what with living with an "artist". Thats enough to drive anyone to drink
> Seconded and passed Diana, your post way back.  Got that guys? Dont like where I live, dont like who I live with
> Who you gonna call?
> Life is a comedy to a man who thinks, and a tradgedy to a man who feels. Wordsworth.
> Discuss. Am trying a substance,  in closely monitored clinical environment, obviously
>
> --- On Fri, 3/7/09, Diana Manister <dmanister-AT-hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Diana Manister <dmanister-AT-hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: Indian Country
> To: situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org
> Date: Friday, 3 July, 2009, 1:51 PM
>
>
>
> Dear Vikki,
>
>
>
> Of course you are right. Despair causes us all to turn to substances.
>
>
>
> Diana
>
> > Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 16:42:16 +0930
> > Subject: Re: Indian Country
> > From: riley.vikki-AT-gmail.com
> > To: situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org
> >
> > Diana
> > Alcolholism a world wide epidemic in non-indigenous societies.
> > I reckon the indigenous victims of this problem are not responsible for the
> > state of affairs.
> > Give people back land, restore dignity, allow them to police themselves with
> > grog patrols and
> > see the difference.
> > Vikki
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 6:29 AM, Diana Manister <dmanister-AT-hotmail.com>wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Dear Mike,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > No one said all Indians are drunkards, nor did anyone demean Indian
> > > culture, character, family life or intelligence.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > By your own admission alcoholism is a problem on the rez, as it is
> > > elsewhere. Denial doesn't solve problems.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I am well aware of the tragic history of Native Americans and was simply
> > > making the point that their terrible treatment has given them obstacles to
> > > overcome.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Diana
> > >
> > > > Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 08:55:53 -0600
> > > > Subject: Indian Country
> > > > From: wallmartyr-AT-gmail.com
> > > > To: situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org
> > > >
> > > > Every year in Albuquerque we host the Gathering of Nations, the single
> > > > biggest pow wow in North America.
> > > >
> > > > It is a beautiful event with proud Natives coming from all over the
> > > country
> > > > to share song and dance and drum.
> > > >
> > > > www.gatheringofnations.com/
> > > >
> > > > I get the impression that those Americans on this list that say Native
> > > > America is in a pitiful state, don't live near any indians.
> > > >
> > > > Sure there's alcoholism. Sure there's drugs here and there. Sure there's
> > > > poverty. In the rez, in the city and in the suburbs.
> > > >
> > > > There's also still a rich culture of pueblo indians in this state that
> > > > hasn't disappeared or been run into extinction. There's the Navajo's to
> > > the
> > > > west, and there's the Kiowa and Sioux to the north east.
> > > >
> > > > It will never be what it was, but either will Aboriginal tribes in
> > > > Australia.
> > > >
> > > > Now with Casinos being allowed on reservations, there's been a chance for
> > > > tribes to build new schools, houses, and provide college educations.. I
> > > love
> > > > seeing the white and hispanic folks flood into the casino to lose money
> > > at
> > > > craps, blackjack, and slots. It's as close to reparations as it is ever
> > > > gonna get. And it has made for many incredible imporovements on the rez.
> > > >
> > > > Wishing folks would stop using that stupid stereotype that indians are
> > > > drunkards,
> > > >
> > > > -MIKE.
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