From: Christopher <rasputin-AT-teleport.com>
Date: 04 Dec 2004 10:47:15 UTC   (04:47:15 AM in author's locale)
To: Situationist <situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org>

I recognize my desire to leap across that "spirit world" that separates
me from others, from my birth-death continuum to life (among the
living) after my death that only connect now can share.  It is like
when my late 20's gave way to a sense of mortality.  I choose not
to live through children but am wanting not to leave one fellow
being out of my life.  I refuse societal limits for that reason and find
I embellish my own barriers as some delusionary bandage for my
fears at not sharing and being shared fully. I am human only if I
can become more so.  You are all citizens of my aspiration, all
unique and unequal, all rebels at the very citizenry my life so
confines.  This I relish even more and renounce my own citizenship
so that I may escape this metaphorical implant. la te dah. ;-)
Welcome to the unnamed everywhere that was so many named
nowheres….

christopher

Mystere Ixe wrote:

I am not a certified american citizen, and therefore
my opinion is not much value. I give it for free : I
agree with Christopher. I also agree with jet black :
people WANT a spiritual aspiration. Tell them : U want
it, so take it. Even a primary french guy like me has
spiritual aspirations. So, what's the point ? 
My aspirations R mine, it's my individual choice and I
don't need to share it. No disciples, no proselits, no
propaganda. What handicaps Islam is not its propension
to transcendance (why not ?), but it's competition in
recruitment of short horizon minds. 
Live your faith, leave it at home. 
Ben 

 —- Cordley Coit cordleycoit-AT-yahoo.com"><cordleycoit-AT-yahoo.com> a écrit : 
 

Did you think your Mars is in the Petagon and Venus
in the Vatican? Best to the travellurs du nuit.
Cordley

Jet Black jet_black-AT-ntlworld.com"><jet_black-AT-ntlworld.com> wrote:Never trust
someone who says they never tea-leafed. Anyway,
kendo is overrated when you live in New Cross. Its
even more overrated when you want someone to stop
attacking you, or someone else, of their own accord.
And not because you made them or died trying. So far
this year, that has been a thoroughly frustrated
wish: I've had to stop the two people I cared most
about with a slap in the face of one kind or
another. I know how Moses felt. 
I still prefer to work with what I've got, which
doesn't include the AK but if you wouldnt mind
sending me a small envelope with some of the other,
its so hard to get in this country nowadays. It
really would help I'm sure.
 
Sorry I haven't got a clue what I'm talking about.
Rough night last night, we all fell off the kitchen
table in Lithuanian. Best solution is to climb
straight back on that bronco and try again. So I'm
gonna go put on a disguise now and see if I can
creep past Dino into Stealth for DJFood. A little
private enterprise will pay for the evening — does
that make me bourgeois Christopher?
 
Decree nisi and they want to cut the gas off. No big
deal. See you in court Fi.
 
k
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From: situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org">situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org
[situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org">mailto:situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org]On Behalf
Of Cordley Coit
Sent: 03 December 2004 
To: Situationist
Subject: RE: Orange Alert!: Imperatornators.

This becomes the edge, which for me is a constant.
Never been a tea leaf but lots of the lads where I
worked had advanced ideas about property. Abdul
Malak and I traded blows when he worked de Fraitis 
and he lost a dog. Later we were close as brothers
so they strung him up. I was wimped out at the time
and couldn't affect the rescue he needed (didn't see
Tarq Alli there either[that doesn't cover my
wimping]). As for doing the dealer you did right but
is he was doing short weight a Kendo lesson might be
in order. 
What I have found in the unknown is real and now
known. Like meditation is empty even if the pictures
are pretty you cannot bring the home or send them to
the kids. But your truble has it right too. There is
stuff she is doing that is real, like Chi Gung (my
teacher said I could break bones all day, now heal
them.) The same with situations.
Right now I am trying to crater a pack of preachers
(Identity Baptists) who took our dull town and
turned it into hell on earth beleaving the whole
time they were saving the damned and spraying
Malathion twice a week (the same as putting black
death wedges in the bikers plunk.) And it's shit
hard work and dull and dangerous. Every house has at
least three AK's and one meth phreak for de Lord's
Army…I being Creole and some of the kids being
Black makes it hard. The old lady being away makes
me feel like the late Bill Cooper(a far right guy
who got cut down by the cops from God, )or Wes
Everett. The problem is that you cannot turn a 7.63
into a spitball with using power. 
What you do is get it sent in the right direction.
One of the problems is that is if one fucks with the
Islamics one gets to meet Sufis and their idea of
transcendence. Their rich kid might just have done
transference with the Old Man. Much unniceness seems
about pass in front of our eyes. And we might do
well to avoid the fate of the Bahi. Sorry my spell
check is gone. Cordley

Jet Black jet_black-AT-ntlworld.com"><jet_black-AT-ntlworld.com> wrote:
My old lady said she'd never speak to me again if I
got a tattoo with a snake in it. The rationale
(falun gong rationale) is that by portraying evil
you bring, or maintain, evil in the world. There's a
lot of truth in that, (although I think my eagle and
snake or devil and angel or george and the dragon
tattoo idea would be a drop in the ocean). The more
you maintain the circulation of an Idea, the more
the Idea thrives — escapes from its initial
constraints and runs amok with our spiritual
futures. By her reasoning, if the image and its
other representations and handles and invokations
are eliminated from a culture, then so are the evil
avenues of possibility which it signified.
 
I wonder what cinema will be like in the next
dharma-time. Not much scope for many plots if the
things we struggle against are no longer there to be
struggled against. Quick — struggle with evil now
before we run out.
 
Anyway, it seems to me that Christophers take on
this whole Allah-sucks thing is negative. People
WANT a spiritual aspiration. For many,
self-evidently, Allah provides a framework for that
desire. What Christopher seems to be doing is to
take it away from them, rather than provide a new
direction. Historical ideas are like runaway
wagon-horses or trucks skidding on ice. There is
Christopher, standing in front of all that horse
power like King Canute trying to turn the tide. 
A better place to be is on top of the engine with a
hand grasping for some of the reins. The MEANING of
Allah should be changed, the MEANING of Islam should
be re-understood, the definitions of everything that
is worthy and noble in the world should supplant, by
such detournements, their often-corrupted
predecessors. But nothing new comes into the world,
(no miracles happen, if we let miracle mean what we
are told it does) and we can only build the future
from what we have here in its past. All I have been
asking for from this forum is PRACTICALITY. It seems
to me that most of us are far too happy to dispense
with reality and use this place for sheer, futile
self-indulgence, venting spleen without a thought
for what is actually POSSIBLE, trying to break the
things which we need, blaming the tools for a bad
job. And while this goes on, real opportunity, which
is to say the power to effect the future, passes us
by like buses in the rain.
 
That immaturity should be transcended.
 
PS. Shes basically right about the tattoo thing, but
impractical in the same way as Christopher. She
refuses to touch dirt and disease and by doing so
hopes to have some healing effect. By contrast, my
policy has been, in recent years, to wrestle with
it, to gradually subdue, divert and transform it.
Once upon a time in one of the worst ghettoes of
south London I was sitting around with the "Firm"
upon whom my safety in the area substantially
depended. It was a boring Sunday afternoon and we
were all skint. A resolve emerged to go smash down
the door of a black couple known to be dealing weed.
The program involved gang rape. My options were on
the face of it pretty BLACK and WHITE. I could go
along with it — get some drugs, money, sex and full
confirmed membership of an up-and-coming tribe, or I
could leg it — and have to abandon the whole area
AND do nothing to prevent what was about to occur.
(Trust me — the police would have been no help
either, and too late not doing it). I came up with
the proposal that I knew a much better target for
break-in and burglary, big hi-fi stuff and al that
to be had, less risk and effort etc… I persuaded
them in a different direction. The haul was less
than they had wanted and there was a little
resentment, but not enough to cause me a
 problem. No one got hurt, no one got raped, the
blatant racism of the plan (despite the fact that
one of us was black but thats another story) was at
least publicly concealed and no wars were started.
What would you have done Christopher? A rapist by
deed or a rapist by omission?
 
And Cordley, how about you? Would you have felt
constrained to choose between black and white
options, or would you have tried to TRANSCEND it, as
I did, and find a new imperfect way that left one
mounted on that runaway stallion, splattered with
mud, blood and karma as it was, but still with a
chance of leading it toward a better destination, by
struggle after struggle after struggle…..
 
KEEP YOUR PANTS IN THE SADDLE DUDES
 
—jetblack
 
 
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From: situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org">situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org
[situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org">mailto:situationist-AT-lists.nothingness.org]On Behalf
Of Cordley Coit
Sent: 03 December 2004 
To: Situationist
Subject: RE: Orange Alert!: Imperatornators.

Is it Islam or transcendence? Cordley

Jet Black jet_black-AT-ntlworld.com"><jet_black-AT-ntlworld.com> wrote: Thats it
blame it on God instead of free will.
 
k
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