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Re: (E) Diet choices and political consciousness
Date: Sun, 09 Feb 1997 16:09:09 -0800
>From: "Brent Peterson" <crash-AT-cyberspace.com>
At 04:06 PM 2/9/97 0100, you wrote:
>>From: Alejandro Rivero <rivero-AT-sol.unizar.es>
>Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 20:39:35 0100 (MET)
>
>
>
>This night I have found other question which could help (at least
>to me) to clarify positions:
>
>Would vegs agree on consumtion of artificial meat? By this, I want to
>say muscles grow in an artificial manner, feeded with nutritive liguids
>suministrated throught plastic arterias. Even some electroshocks could
>be applied to put such thing on shape. Pure mechanicism, with no genetic
>issues or monster nightmares involved (Well, I admit that the image of
>a big hall crowded with rows of muscles atached to metalic bones and
>going up and down following electrical dischargue is a good one for
>a nighmare. But the point is that no animals are involved).
>
>Now, suposse that such thing can be done in the future and that the
>productive mechanism (e.g., a non-capitalist one) gives you the needed
>security about the quality and nutritive value. Take your time
>to think the answer: would you eat such thing?
>
its not like i went vegan but i still wanted to eat meat, i just couldn't
morally justify it... i don't like meat. i don't like the murder, the
taste or the moral repurcussions of participating in the modern farming
system.
there are vegan "bacon" substitutes that actually taste like bacon. but i
still refuse to eat it.
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detract from their humanity."
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>From: "Brent Peterson" <crash-AT-cyberspace.com>
At 04:06 PM 2/9/97 0100, you wrote:
>>From: Alejandro Rivero <rivero-AT-sol.unizar.es>
>Date: Sat, 8 Feb 1997 20:39:35 0100 (MET)
>
>
>
>This night I have found other question which could help (at least
>to me) to clarify positions:
>
>Would vegs agree on consumtion of artificial meat? By this, I want to
>say muscles grow in an artificial manner, feeded with nutritive liguids
>suministrated throught plastic arterias. Even some electroshocks could
>be applied to put such thing on shape. Pure mechanicism, with no genetic
>issues or monster nightmares involved (Well, I admit that the image of
>a big hall crowded with rows of muscles atached to metalic bones and
>going up and down following electrical dischargue is a good one for
>a nighmare. But the point is that no animals are involved).
>
>Now, suposse that such thing can be done in the future and that the
>productive mechanism (e.g., a non-capitalist one) gives you the needed
>security about the quality and nutritive value. Take your time
>to think the answer: would you eat such thing?
>
its not like i went vegan but i still wanted to eat meat, i just couldn't
morally justify it... i don't like meat. i don't like the murder, the
taste or the moral repurcussions of participating in the modern farming
system.
there are vegan "bacon" substitutes that actually taste like bacon. but i
still refuse to eat it.
=================================================
"All institutions, all social organizations,
impose a pattern on people and detract from there
individuality; above all, it seams to me, they
detract from their humanity."
-John Vaizey, Scenes from Institutional Life.
-=http://www.cyberspace.com/~crash=-
=================================================
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