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Re: (E) Diet choices and political consciousness

From: ra-AT-alor.univ-montp3.fr (Ronald Creagh, Moderator, Research on Anarchism List)
Date: 10 Feb 1997 10:32:27 UTC   (06:32:27 AM in author's locale)
To: ra-l-AT-bred.univ-montp3.fr
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 1997 00:08:47 0100
>From: David.Olivier-AT-iol.it (David Olivier)
>From: Alejandro Rivero <rivero-AT-sol.unizar.es> :
>Would vegs agree on consumtion of artificial meat? By this, I want to
>say muscles grow in an artificial manner, feeded with nutritive liguids
>suministrated throught plastic arterias. Even some electroshocks could
>be applied to put such thing on shape. Pure mechanicism, with no genetic
>issues or monster nightmares involved (Well, I admit that the image of
>a big hall crowded with rows of muscles atached to metalic bones and
>going up and down following electrical dischargue is a good one for
>a nighmare. But the point is that no animals are involved).
>
>Now, suposse that such thing can be done in the future and that the
>productive mechanism (e.g., a non-capitalist one) gives you the needed
>security about the quality and nutritive value. Take your time
>to think the answer: would you eat such thing?
_I_, and other animal liberationists, certainly would have no objections
to eating such meat. On the other hand, those who are vegetarian for
'health' reasons would probably not want to eat it. But they are not animal
liberationists. The distinction is essential.
Alejandro's question is a good one, because it may clarify the debate,
which has focused too much on diet and not enough on the ethical issue of
the right treatment of non-human animals (as individuals). Antispeciesism,
i.e. animal liberation, has fundamentally little to do with diet; no more
and no less than antiracism would have had to do with personal hygiene if
refusing to use the soap made by the Nazis from the Jew's bodies had become
a point of public debate.
David Olivier
David.Olivier-AT-iol.it
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